Rogue build advice

So I decided to GR Grace and worked out a build. If any of you can give some feedback on the build, that would be appreciated She's a dex-based rogue that is both trapmonkey and assassin, on assassin prestige path. I wanted her to still be able to do those high level traps and such. She won't have the DPS that a str-based rogue would have, but I'll live with that.

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Graceana
Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Female
(20 Rogue)
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 20
Will: 9

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 12 14 14
Dexterity 16 20 24
Constitution 14 16 16
Intelligence 16 21 23
Wisdom 12 14 14
Charisma 8 10 10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 8
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 8
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 8
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 8
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 8

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 7 30 31
Bluff 3 17 26
Concentration 2 3 4
Diplomacy 3 23 24
Disable Device 7 29 34
Haggle -1 23 24
Heal 1 2 3
Hide 7 30 44
Intimidate -1 0 1
Jump 5 25 28
Listen 1 2 5
Move Silently 7 30 43
Open Lock 7 30 35
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 3 6 7
Search 7 29 34
Spot 5 25 30
Swim 1 2 3
Tumble n/a 8 9
Use Magic Device 3 23 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I

Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancemment: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I

Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I

Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Spot II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I

Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II

Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II

Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack AAccuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II

Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III
Enhancement: Improved Search III
Enhancement: Improved Spot III

Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II

Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Hide III
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently III

Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I

Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock IV
Enhancement: Improved Search IV
Enhancement: Improved Spot IV

Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III

Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III

Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV

Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV

Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently IV

Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II

Questions:
1. Should I put all level points into DEX instead of dropping a few in INT? I know ordinarily it's all in DEX on this kind of rogue, but with the 32 pt and the additional dex enhancements, I thought it might balance okay. If it can be lower and still have me reliably able to snag the traps at end game, then I'll switch the points to DEX for the finesse. (I use a rapier and either a dagger or shortsword off-hand.)

2. Should I switch the order of my feats around a bit? In part they are based on stat prereqs, but a few could be messed with, and I'm not entirely sure what will be most useful mid game compared to end game.

Thanks all!

I'm just wondering why you have put so many points into wisdom. If I were you, I'd dump them all and add them all into STR, or maybe a couple into STR and a couple into DEX. The only benefit a higher Wis gets you is a better spot, but with plus items in that, and the +2 tome at level 8 you should have enough.

A High Int is useful for Rogues, so I wouldn't dump that stat at all.

Thanks for the advice Zog I forgot to put my WIS question in there, actually. I'm not sure what I really need on that as far as end game content and spot ability. I have seen advice that I shouldn't dump it entirely, but should max it at 12 for end game because of epic content. I don't know, having never played epic with my rogue. With it as a dump stat, figuring the +2 tome, what gear will I need, reasonably? Obviously a +15 Spot item, but what else is likely needed as a boost?

Also, why add them all or half into STR if it's a DEX based rogue? And if I split them, why not DEX and a few in CON? (Really asking, I hope no one thinks my questions indicate lack of appreciation.)

Nice build, a couple things:

taking toughness that early: this wont be a noticeable help early on. If you took it later on the toughness would be instantly noticeable and helpful. I think if you take toughness at level 1 it only gives you 1 extra HP. But, since you are G-reincarnating, I think that it is probably fine where it is.

The WIS issue: The problem is, on epics and some high level elites, my ranger can't spot traps at that score. ranger have a +10 spot spell that stacks, can only cast it on myself; but needless to say i cant spot many of them. I wear +15 and i get GH selr casted, makes my spot around 50 or so and i still cant spot many of them.

So, I would be inclined to say that you should dump WIS for this reason. Why? Because in epics its going to be expected of you (and everyone) to know where the traps are. You will need a high SEARCH to find the box, that is what people will expect of you. If you know the trap is there, and know where the box is, technically you do not need SPOT at all. A spot of 0 with a high search will find the traps and more importantly, the trap boxes. My decent search of 35 cannot find any boxes at all on epic. I know where they all are, but no way i can search them.

I would take IC: piercing earlier, that will benefit your damage a lot. With a low STR, you will rely on critical and sneak attacks for most of your damage. If you decide to dump WIS, I would put it into CON and DEX. This build will focus on rapiers only, and when this build gets to epics it will use heavy picks which do the MOST damage in epics out of any weapon (arguably, as this is only consideration for monster that are held).



Just to let you know, weapon finesse makes your to hit modifier for certain weapons become your DEX modifier. However, all your damage, on any weapon whether weapon finesse or not, is based off your STR modifier. So with weapon finesse and a high DEX, you will hit your enemies. But, with a low STR, you will not hurt them as much.

I've never taken weapon finesse myself, from what I've heard they are usually TWF dex based AC builds.

About your question, putting the level ups into INT; personally I wouldnt put the level ups there. with a +6 INT item you'd get it up to 24 INT without any level ups. Those 5 level ups might be better use in STR, CON, or even more DEX.

Bella probably be more help, she has a capped rogue.

Mine is more of a strength based rogue, so I guess my tendency is to go for that. However, as you clearly stated () that this is a dex build, don't worry about it! I put enough into Dex to get Greater TWF and all my level ups went into STR except for one into DEX.

If you're running around Vale, Assassinate (Assassin II) will be your best friend, and it works more often than not. Same goes for Shavarath, although by then you should have free vorpals (Assassin III). Rogues often lead the kill count in Vale and Shavarath quests for that reason! So learn to be sneaky sneaky (I'm just learning now!).

Search is an INT based skill so having an INT of 25 ish is good (helps you to get INT runes too) Some of the Inspired Quarter quests have some traps that are pretty hard to find and so you need to try to be able to get your Search into the high 40s by level 18/19 to be able to get them. However, with Greater Heroism (and skill boost?), that's doable normally! Some people say that Wizards with 2 levels of rogue are the best trapmonkeys around, as they can get their search and spot skills higher...

Oh and my WIS was not a complete dump stat. I started with 8 - CHA is the total dump one for rogues, even though more cha = better UMD! (can be partially sorted with a +6 cha ring).

Why are you waiting to level 8 to take the +2 tomes, you can use them at level 7.

Auro is a thief acrobat rogue. With my +15 items (and if I remember my +6 int) on my rogue skills are all high 40's-50's. I also have a high enough umd that I can use raise dead scrolls.

I think I'd dump the haggle skill and put those points into other places. Unless you are going to do UMD, don't bother with a Char tome, and I wouldn't waste money on the Wis one at all.

If you are wanting an assassin rogue, there is a person named Rittz (pretty sure I spelled that right) we call him super rogue, he can pretty much solo mindsunder and is quite likely the DDO version of Chuck Noris. he is all sorts of awesome. I'd suggest talking to him. You can tell him I was bragging about his awesomeness... he's ran with Cari quite a few times, and he'd be able to give you all sorts of tips.

Since I'm GRing, Sel, it doesn't matter when I take them, because I'm already lvl 15.

Bell, I have so many skill points and they are all maxed, that's why I put points into haggle. There's really no place else useful to put them in. I am maxing UMD as well (again, plenty of points), but basically it's cheaper for me to grab a tome of supreme ability and add to all stats than it is for me to just get tomes for each stat I would need.

solo mindsunder? that quest is so easy

sorry... figured soloing mindunder on elite was something pretty awesome since I've seen party wipes on that ... guess I was wrong

So does he backstab the crystal?

That sounds like a wild one to solo.

Okay, taking into account all the advice and stuff, I have a revised version:

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Graceana
Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Female
(20 Rogue)
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/2525
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 22
Will: 8

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16 16
Dexterity 17 24 28
Constitution 14 16 16
Intelligence 14 16 18
Wisdom 10 12 12
Charisma 8 10 10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 6 29 30
Bluff 2 11 20
Concentration 2 3 4
Diplomacy 3 23 24
Disable Device 6 27 32
Haggle -1 5 6
Heal 0 1 2
Hide 7 32 46
Intimidate -1 0 1
Jump 4 25 28
Listen 0 1 4
Move Silently 7 32 45
Open Lock 7 32 37
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 2 4 5
Search 6 27 32
Spot 4 24 29
Swim 2 3 4
Tumble n/a 10 11
Use Magic Device 3 23 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Bluff (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I

Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I

Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I

Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Spot II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I

Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II

Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II

Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II

Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haaggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III
Enhancement: Improved Search III
Enhancement: Improved Spot III

Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II

Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Hide III
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently III

Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I

Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock IV
Enhancement: Improved Search IV
Enhancement: Improved Spot IV

Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III

Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III

Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV

Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV

Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently IV

Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II

I think this will (hopefully) do what I want it to do. Did I miss anything?

Also, thanks to the many of you that helped me whittle down the huge amount of favor I had to run for in order to do this GR. I appreciate it so, so much! *hugs Bella, Dee, Randy, Anto, and Jill*

ok I'm gonna be a bit of a pain to your plan, since I discovered how important they are and all that since you'll be dual wielding I would take the two weapon fighting feats sooner. Anto mentioned the toughness thing, and I agree. I'd get to greater 2 weapon fighting as fast as you can really... I'd swap it out for either the finesse or skill mastery. With your end stats, you really wont need the skill mastery. And finesse ... I think another toughness would be better because you will need to be over 400 hp to be not squishy(trust me in shroud, you NEED all the hp you can, they complain about rogues lots). Minos gives you was it 35? Greater false life item 30, and a green steel hp item 45, also get your +6 con asap ...it will help, but ultimately, the more hp the better. Not sure what guile and cunning do, but I may even suggest that you swap them for a toughness enhancement (figured since you don't take the one till lvl 20 it wasn't too important)

The feats are taken literally as soon as they can be. They have prereqs and I can't move them earlier (I tried before to move GTWF earlier and couldn't do it). I can't swap skill mastery for finesse/toughness/GTWF, because skill mastery is one of the rogue feats, not a general. The weapon finesse is basically required for a dex rogue according to all the capped dex rogues I've read/talked to - they're saying that if I don't take weapon finesse, my hit will be lower, and that ends up making the difference between me killing before I get killed.

There's just no way as a dex rogue I'm going to be over 400 hp. I already took all the toughness enhancements (there's only racial toughness I and II; no more available after that). Another toughness feat won't even get me to 400 hp or even close. The guile and cunning add to my sneak attack and flanking bonuses.

Saw this thread on the DDO forums and thought it might make interesting reading for you

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=302901

I read that one. Really str vs dex is a personal playstyle choice. I realize that the prevailing wisdom is "oh no, not dex, you'll be gimped horribly!" I disagree, though, since I've seen a lot of dex based rogues kick some ass, and the ones that are running them successfully gave me some great advice. Will I hit for the very best dps? Nope, and I don't much care