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Tod_Whitesnow Squire
Posts : 734 Join date : 2010-09-20 Age : 56 Location : DDO the NNGO Airship RK Scotland RL Australia
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:03 pm | |
| How do you get forum points
I even BBQ a anteater in carlisle (in a RP) and put pics in and not a note.
Ed does not do much and gets hammered where is the justice.
Drags out a Cross for Ed to get on | |
| | | Elois Noble
Posts : 2892 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 42 Location : Antarctica
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:22 pm | |
| My first point was for arguing with Rothum. Second was for arguing with Aldicia.
Both took a long time. regret arguing with Rothum in hindsight, don't regret the other.
3rd was simply quoting Edwin. Which, to me, was just ridiculous. | |
| | | anto_capone Royal
Posts : 16478 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 44 Location : Che cazzo fai?
Character sheet DDO character: Ranger RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:09 pm | |
| - Grace wrote:
- WhiteSnow wrote:
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- I think it's asking too much for a person that lives in the country mod without a mask.
Was done before actually. Before the masks were introduced. I'm aware of that, and it was an issue not just because of bad censoring but because people can't separate. I mean, we have a boatload of players that can't even distinguish between character actions across RK/NK/SK if they are from the same player. It is really hard for too many people in RK to comprehend that the player and the character is not the same. I can just imagine the posts - "Oh sure, you tell me this post is bad, but you sure were terrible when you revolted the capital!" or some such idiocy. I do think it's better all around for the censors to be seen as outside the realm of gameplay a bit. the censors are the ones who have the biggest problem with separating player/character. they will go after people their character has beef with more than others. this is harassment. just got another violation for flaming on rk: - {Pygmy_Owl} wrote:
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- To the player of anto_capone,
One of your posts in the "Senators flee state to avoid vote..." thread in the Off Topic Tavern and Lounge has been split and moved out of sight due to a violation of rule 4B.
Please remember that the Lounge is an OOC forum, and insults directed at players are simply not appropriate. It is best to avoid anything that could be interpreted as an insult to the player behind the character.
Thanks,
Pygmy
- anto_capone wrote:
- _leopold_ wrote:
- And for someone coming to rob me of my meal. My home is an arsenal of swords and daggers, and a .357, so let the thief come.
lol i thought you had some intelligence until i saw this - Quote :
- Rule 4: Flaming, Harassment and Baiting
Passionate and emotional Role Play can be the most interesting and exciting. This is to be encouraged and nurtured by players and censors alike. It must be remembered that real people with real feelings exist behind the Kingdom’s characters and therefore there is a limit to what can, should, and will be allowed. Rule 4, in tandem with the Roleplay Moderation protocols, defines what will be considered as excessive and actionable roleplay and out of character postings. This rule applies to all posts made on the Renaissance Kingdoms forums.
- A: Roleplay that reaches an excessive degree of harassment, insults, slander, flaming, uses vulgar language or is written for the express purpose of inciting anger or debasing another will be considered violation of Rule 4A.
- B: Out of character insults, flames and harassment will not be tolerated under any circumstances and will be considered in violation of Rule 4B.
- C: Bigotry is unacceptable. A players' real life race/ethnicity, sex/gender identity, age, religion/spirituality, sexual preference/orientation, nationality, socio-economic status, political affiliation, or disability may not be discussed and may not be ridiculed. Any posts or sections of posts of this nature will be considered in violation of Rule 4C.
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| | | Edwin Commoner
Posts : 166 Join date : 2010-09-23
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Weaver
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:12 pm | |
| Maybe we'll do a flashmob of some sort. Mailing each and every censor the same letter calling them idiots or something... I think it's high time the players start giving some back. If they will think of banning 50% of active forum players maybe they'll think twice...
Another idiotic censor scum mail above... | |
| | | Elois Noble
Posts : 2892 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 42 Location : Antarctica
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:22 pm | |
| LOL, you got so into that thread. And I was only posting to watch Paddy's brain go explodey. I was gonna try and stop ya, Anto, but then I said, nah. | |
| | | anto_capone Royal
Posts : 16478 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 44 Location : Che cazzo fai?
Character sheet DDO character: Ranger RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:49 pm | |
| People say stupid shit, all the time. I reserve the right to call it as I see it. | |
| | | Elois Noble
Posts : 2892 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 42 Location : Antarctica
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:09 pm | |
| Still stupid for them to give you a point over that. So much worse gets ignored. | |
| | | WhiteSnow Noble
Posts : 2155 Join date : 2010-09-21 Age : 39 Location : Negative Plane
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:50 pm | |
| - Grace wrote:
- WhiteSnow wrote:
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- Quote :
- I think it's asking too much for a person that lives in the country mod without a mask.
Was done before actually. Before the masks were introduced. I'm aware of that, and it was an issue not just because of bad censoring but because people can't separate. I mean, we have a boatload of players that can't even distinguish between character actions across RK/NK/SK if they are from the same player. It is really hard for too many people in RK to comprehend that the player and the character is not the same. I can just imagine the posts - "Oh sure, you tell me this post is bad, but you sure were terrible when you revolted the capital!" or some such idiocy. I do think it's better all around for the censors to be seen as outside the realm of gameplay a bit. Whats the matter: can the mods separate themselves from it and show the example ? At least back then I did know, that I'm being pressured by the mod that is the judge who hates criminals. Now while I wont brag nor list any names here, I do receive time to time info on that anyways. Its not a top secret, if I do know some, than definitely others do know some too. On topic: Wombat is my favourite. Anteater would be the second. Panther(? << too long ago to remember exactly) would win the third place, but with my applauds for bringing lots of laugh | |
| | | Bekah Noble
Posts : 3343 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 52
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:03 pm | |
| I am a mod on here - it is no secret and haven't you all noticed how I am issuing bans all the time? *chuckles* it is possible to mod without a mask, but I have to say - it is hard to mod if you are in an area where you are active as a player. It is the same reason why doctors cannot treat family - you lose impartiality. I have had problems with the way I see some mods treating players, but there have been times where I have thought that players have pushed their luck. It doesn't matter if my opinion about that is right or wrong, but it does go to show that there are two sides to every story. What I see here is people moaning about when they have been told off (and it is never nice to be told you are wrong) but no-one saying when they haven't been told off or better yet, helped. The system is flawed, but then so are many systems (anyone want to burn speed cameras with me, cos I assure you, me driving ten miles over the limit is less dangerous than the old fart in front doing 30 and with no clue of where he is or where anyone else is) - there is good and bad in everything. It is the way of the world. | |
| | | James Squire
Posts : 889 Join date : 2010-09-14 Age : 31
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:47 pm | |
| - {Wolfhound} wrote:
- Dear James,
I am writing to you about your post in the FAQ.
- James wrote:
- More information on sheep can be found at their HQ http://kotp.forumotion.com/.
Whilst I appreciate you may be trying to make a witty remark, please remember the FAQ is an OOC area with the sole aim of helping people who are struggling. This comment was not suited to the FAQ as it is neither OOC or aimed to help. Hence, it has been split off for the time being whilst we review it.
I apologize for any inconvenience, Many thanks,
Wolfie | |
| | | Elois Noble
Posts : 2892 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 42 Location : Antarctica
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:53 pm | |
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| | | Boris Commoner
Posts : 159 Join date : 2010-10-05 Age : 65 Location : Bristol UK.
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Whiskey Distiller
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:52 pm | |
| I got it on with a censor once, girl called snail. Quite a fun little RP, as I recall.
I had a dude called Penguin once apologise to me for asking me to apologise to another player. This was back in the old Lizzard rampage days, and it was for calling Springtime "The evil witch-queen of Ros". I also got into the soup with Muin for asking that she be "washed, and sent to my room". He got to be friends over that, but Springtime never acknowledged my apology. Penguin was cool about it, and we swapped mails in confidence. All the other censors I have ever seen have been pricks, and beneth contempt. I loathe them in the same way that I loathe traffic wardens.
However, I have to say, that despite all the flame-fests in which I have wallowed, all the Daubigny and Evan crap I have revelled in, all the sneaky cryptic posts (I once called Evan a Sad Cunt in the crossing by using the start letters of sentences), and even an eradication, I have still to be penalised with a single forum point.
One point: They seem to be blissfully unaware of transatlantic swearwords. Anybody whowishes to learn how to swear like a Brit, make your wishes known, and I can introduce you to the delight of the Berk and the Donald. | |
| | | Sephrenia Citizen
Posts : 442 Join date : 2010-09-20
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Baker
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:33 pm | |
| One day, I might decide to swear and insult someone in Doric. I'd do Glaswegian, but it's a little blunter >.> Snail's a fun girl, knowing her she would do some fun bits of RP. Dory is fun when she's around as well actually | |
| | | Boris Commoner
Posts : 159 Join date : 2010-10-05 Age : 65 Location : Bristol UK.
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Whiskey Distiller
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:38 am | |
| Snail is still around? I was told she had gone to the great French restaurant in the sky... | |
| | | Bekah Noble
Posts : 3343 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 52
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:08 am | |
| Did anyone see that S-car go? | |
| | | Edwin Commoner
Posts : 166 Join date : 2010-09-23
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Weaver
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:19 am | |
| Badger has officially read this thread now: - Quote :
Thank you for the links. Quite alot of reading. Interestingly there seems to actually be interest in discussion from many of those involved there. If you do not wish to do, that is fine. My offer was sincere.
The main actionable suggestions seem to boil down to: - Remove censoring/mods completely - Remove censor masks
I'm not sure the first would be allowed/possible. LJS would just replace them...and then who would you get? The second could be done but I know well what happens next, player repercussion.
It is a good read though. Thank you.
Badger
That was after presenting me with a new offer on bans, buy one, get one free... Whole discussion: - Spoiler:
- {Badger} wrote:
- Edwin_odesseiron wrote:
- {Badger} wrote:
- Edwin_odesseiron wrote:
- {Badger} wrote:
- Hello again Edwin_odesseiron,
I've gotten word that, sadly, you've decided to go on the warpath again and play "Edwin vs the Moderators". I'd like to ask, Why?
You are now down to only 1 point, which means that you've been RPing for some time now. You've been staying away from OOC. I have said before that I know that many people look up to you and enjoy your RP and that my wish is that you would just RP, RP and leave enforcement of problem players to us.
When you RP you are a valued and widely appreciated member of this community. I ask you sincerely to take a step back, a deep breath, and allow us to deal with situations, and you do your RP, without OOC, as I know that you can.
Thank you,
Badger The answer is - you don't take anything what we - the players say, into account. Instead you make the rules more and more hostile towards us. If you were a careful observer you would have noticed that Highland Halls is already pretty much dead. 3 threads posted in throughout the week, one of which is a spam thread, the other one is about music. Not more than 10 posts. This is where your rules have led Scottish forums to.
So if you've heard me being on the warpath, did your furry idiotic minions also made you aware that I'm not the only one who has spoken in such tone (though I did it most of the times) but there's like 10 active people saying the same now? I didn't trigger it, don't blame me.
Another question when will you realise that forums are for players, not for fascist cows or other animals you are? There is already an offsite forum where many people have gathered, including the former {gopher}, where the fat bitch got heavy lashing for her censor achievements from that forum's residents. Dare to show yourself in there? I'll give you the link if you want.
Our behaviour will continue, until you knuckle-headed morons finally realise that you need to start listening to us and our suggestions or soon 3 posts a week in HH might be your reason to ask Celsius for money gratification for your hard work in developing the forums.
I don't even mind being banned anymore. No biggie being blocked of a forum with no people on it... Edwin,
Actually I and we do take the players comments into account. More people comment than just you, you know.
In any case, I am and have always been willing to listen and discuss differences, you should know that. I realize that there are misunderstandings every day here as well as in life, and that communication is the only possible way to work through them. Communication though is a two way thing.
If you feel unsafe here discussing I can go on whatever forum you need, but I will only promise to participate so long as it is clear that the interest is in resolution, not simply about attacks and triumphs (your seeming chest thumping over beating down another {gopher} makes wonder what your real agenda in inviting me is).
I am happy to listen, to comment, to work through for the good of RK, without ego and without agenda. Are you willing to do the same?
Badger I'm not going to make you take part of it and believe me, there are people out there who are not your greatest fans either, myself included. I can show you the forums (link below) and you can read whatever has already been said and take that into notice or not.
The reason I think you won't is because you're being hypocritic. - Quote :
In any case, I am and have always been willing to listen and discuss differences, you should know that. I realize that there are misunderstandings every day here as well as in life, and that communication is the only possible way to work through them. Communication though is a two way thing. I suppose that was the best way to communicate with Thog. Ban the hell out of him. And now you're moaning I'm not civilised while talking to you... I wonder why... hmm... The person who bans people for 3 months for comparing others to lizards... You still wonder why I don't find our (mine and all censors) conversations any fruitful? Maybe it's because I think you yourself are a biased twat too?
Wait till you see what lies Gopher started putting there about dealing with me, as well as her admitting to abuse censor powers on certain individuals... And yes, there are censor haters there too. Also take note of how the forum is called...
Have fun.
Interesting thread no. 1 https://realrk.forumotion.com/t150-welcome-to-ireland-wombat-now-go-back-where-you-came-from
Interesting thread no. 2 https://realrk.forumotion.com/t274-things-that-can-get-you-banned
There are probably more, but I can't be arsed to look them up for you. I'm not your waiter anyway... Thank you for the links. Quite alot of reading. Interestingly there seems to actually be interest in discussion from many of those involved there. If you do not wish to do, that is fine. My offer was sincere.
The main actionable suggestions seem to boil down to: - Remove censoring/mods completely - Remove censor masks
I'm not sure the first would be allowed/possible. LJS would just replace them...and then who would you get? The second could be done but I know well what happens next, player repercussion.
It is a good read though. Thank you.
Badger
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| | | WhiteSnow Noble
Posts : 2155 Join date : 2010-09-21 Age : 39 Location : Negative Plane
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:45 am | |
| - {Badger} wrote:
- Whitesnow wrote:
- Why do you load us, when there is no real reason ? Forums were rather peaceful, when when you and company started to interfere.
About Camel: I asked _twice_ about the thread started by the mask, but got none response nor results. Masks arent allowed to take part in political discussions right ?
About HH: want to ban me - go on. I dont mind it, but please make some order there and remove some and irrelavant threads (stickied by you and co). Nobody's going to respect the mods, if you al continue to behave like that. I see the challenge, Edwin does, Angel does - where does it all lead ? Why not to relax and give us some freedoms: especially when its a group that did stay in rk for years.
Excuse me for my english: Im Lithuanian.
Whitesnow,
What is the world are you talking about? Edwin has been contacting me as well. It seems that you all have created some sort of conspiracy in your heads. I have no clue what you are on about.
The rules were updated so that less OOC was allowed, even you all requested that. Is that what you are talking about? If so I can tell you with absolute assurance that we have gotten many thanks for making it so. Why would less OOC allowed bother you? You can do RP can't you?
Badger | |
| | | Edwin Commoner
Posts : 166 Join date : 2010-09-23
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Weaver
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:05 am | |
| If he thinks anyone would form a conspiracy with BJB who says the same, he needs to see a doctor... | |
| | | Elois Noble
Posts : 2892 Join date : 2010-09-13 Age : 42 Location : Antarctica
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:20 am | |
| - Edwin wrote:
- If he thinks anyone would form a conspiracy with BJB who says the same, he needs to see a doctor...
Well, there's some who would on occasion but we just laugh at them later. | |
| | | Angeljoy25 Noble
Posts : 2244 Join date : 2010-09-15
Character sheet DDO character: Rogue RK Profession: Butcher
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:30 am | |
| - WhiteSnow wrote:
- {Badger} wrote:
- Whitesnow wrote:
- Why do you load us, when there is no real reason ? Forums were rather peaceful, when when you and company started to interfere.
About Camel: I asked _twice_ about the thread started by the mask, but got none response nor results. Masks arent allowed to take part in political discussions right ?
About HH: want to ban me - go on. I dont mind it, but please make some order there and remove some and irrelavant threads (stickied by you and co). Nobody's going to respect the mods, if you al continue to behave like that. I see the challenge, Edwin does, Angel does - where does it all lead ? Why not to relax and give us some freedoms: especially when its a group that did stay in rk for years.
Excuse me for my english: Im Lithuanian.
Whitesnow,
What is the world are you talking about? Edwin has been contacting me as well. It seems that you all have created some sort of conspiracy in your heads. I have no clue what you are on about.
The rules were updated so that less OOC was allowed, even you all requested that. Is that what you are talking about? If so I can tell you with absolute assurance that we have gotten many thanks for making it so. Why would less OOC allowed bother you? You can do RP can't you?
Badger They not only took out OOC, but IC as well, leaving only RP. What shall I do, place the back of my hand to my forehead each time I speak? I am Angel IC 99.9 % of the time and state when I go OOC. This is not good enough now, and I simply don't have the desire to try and change and adapt my character to their ways. And anyone who doesn't see the bias, doesn't because their nose is so far up the censor's bum. | |
| | | Roxxane Royal
Posts : 5105 Join date : 2010-09-12 Location : Undisclosed
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Carpenter
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:17 pm | |
| My favorite thread is the "yawn" thread we did during the PL wars. The censors were so oppressive that the only thing you could really do was "yawn". Just post yawn over and over in every thread. Who's to say it isn't roleplay?
R | |
| | | Bellz Knight
Posts : 1166 Join date : 2010-09-19 Location : in a galexy far far away or Khyber... or stuck at work dreaming of Hawaii
Character sheet DDO character: Cleric RK Profession: Baker
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:10 pm | |
| I think the new rules are stupid... I mean seriously... typing bella says...makes it all ok?
there is a difference between IC threads and RP threads. Any idiot should be able to tell the difference.I think the censors are bored. Forums are dead and they need something to do... | |
| | | anto_capone Royal
Posts : 16478 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 44 Location : Che cazzo fai?
Character sheet DDO character: Ranger RK Profession: Blacksmith
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:25 pm | |
| wait a minute... now you have to write in the 3rd person for it to be considered role play or allowable on their nazi forums? what a bunch of fucking idiots.. | |
| | | Sephrenia Citizen
Posts : 442 Join date : 2010-09-20
Character sheet DDO character: RK Profession: Baker
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:26 am | |
| Not according to Badger | |
| | | Angeljoy25 Noble
Posts : 2244 Join date : 2010-09-15
Character sheet DDO character: Rogue RK Profession: Butcher
| Subject: Re: Welcome to Ireland, Wombat. Now go back where you came from. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am | |
| Camel's all over "gently reminding" things, when they are clearly ic. so I think Badger is the only one who doesn't think that way. I tried going to Camel with an issue in the past, mailed it a couple of times, never even got any reply whatsoever. Just sad, this whole thing. | |
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